In this episode we continue our discussion on Cameron Bertuzzi’s conversion to Roman Catholicism, focusing on apologist Matt Fradd’s position on the Eucharist, since (as Bertuzzi states) Fradd was the most influential person in his journey to conversion on the matter of the Eucharist. This time we focus on Matt Fradd’s understanding of 1 Corinthians 11:27 in which Paul warns us not to “eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily.” We take up Fradd’s challenge to explore that passage in light of how the early writers interpreted it. And because Fradd claims that he “could go on, and on, and on” with early testimonies affirming the “Real Presence of Christ in the Supper, we “go on, and on, and on” in our response, evaluating the typical ancient evidence, and rebutting the standard Roman Catholic talking points on all of them: Ignatius of Antioch and Cyril of Jerusalem (whom Fradd mentions) and Justin Martyr, Irenæus of Lyons and Cyprian of Carthage (whom he does not).
In this episode, we identify the two main factors that contributed to the conversion of Cameron Bertuzzi to Roman Catholicism: the Eucharist and the Papacy. In this episode we provide evidence that the earliest writers took a metaphorical view of the “Bread of Life” narrative in John 6 and a symbolic view of the Last Supper institution narratives. In addition to rebutting several Roman Catholic arguments for the literal view, we also provide a scripturalist interpretation of John 6 by evaluating Jesus’ words in the immediate context of John 6, the expanded context of the harmonized loaves and fishes narrative, the broader context of the Four Gospel accounts of Jesus’ interaction with the Jews, and the fuller context of the Isaiah prophecy from Isaiah 55:1-4. Continued analysis of the Roman Catholic arguments for the literal view of the Real Presence will continue in Episodes 2 & 3.
Debating the Eucharist // Cameron Bertuzzi vs. Matt Fradd
Cameron Bertuzzi CONVERTS to Catholicism (Here's how it happened)
This week SRR welcomes Tim Kauffman back to the show for another in-depth discussion of the Roman Catholic Mass. Both Tim Shaughnessy and Tim Kauffman have been converted out of Roman Catholicism and now regard the Mass as an abomination. Those are strong words to use so tune in and find out why the Catholic church is in grave error regarding this issue. Tim Kauffman addresses the criticism that we are being hateful and bashing the Roman Catholics. In Roman Catholics and Mass part, 1 Tim Kauffman met the "sacrifice challenge" head on and demonstrated from scripture and history that the Catholic Church is holding to a late 4th-century novelty. Join us in today's episode as we continue to look at what the early Church leaders taught as Tim Kauffman continues to dismantle the Catholic position.Questions? Comments? Feedback? Email us at Semper.Reformanda.Radio@gmail.com Check out our blog: biblethumpingwingnut.com/semper-reformanda-radio Check out Tim Kauffman’s blog: www.whitehorseblog.com/ Rate and Review us on iTunes: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bible…id901586827?mt=2
This week SRR welcomes Tim Kauffman back to the show for an in-depth discussion of the Roman Catholic Mass. Both Tim Shaughnessy and Tim Kauffman are converts from Roman Catholicism and now regard the Mass as an abomination. Those are strong words to use so tune in and find out why the Catholic church is in grave error regarding this issue. Brother Tim Kauffman takes on what Catholics refer to as the "sacrifice challenges" and he lays it to rest.
Questions? Comments? Feedback? Email us at Semper.Reformanda.Radio@gmail.com Check out our blog: biblethumpingwingnut.com/semper-reformanda-radio Check out Tim Kauffman's blog: www.whitehorseblog.com/ Rate and Review us on iTunes: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bible…id901586827?mt=2
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